Agenda and draft minutes

Scrutiny Advisory Board - Adults
Monday, 19th March, 2018 10.00 am

Venue: Committee Room 1, County Offices, Kendal

Contact: Stewart Consterdine  Email: stewart.consterdine@cumbria.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

84.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

To receive any apologies for absence.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Mrs C McCarron Holmes, Mr F Cassidy and Mr K Hitchen.

 

An apology was also received Mr D Gawne and Mr W Wearing attended as substitute.

 

85.

MEMBERSHIP

To report and note changes to the membership of the Board

Minutes:

Mr D Fairbairn has been replaced on the Committee by Mr L Fisher.

 

86.

DISCLOSURES OF INTEREST

Members are invited to disclose any disclosable pecuniary interest they have in any item on the agenda which comprises

 

1          Details of any employment, office, trade, profession or vocation carried on for            profit or gain.

 

2          Details of any payment or provision of any other financial benefit (other than from the authority) made or provided within the relevant period in respect of any expenses incurred by you in carrying out duties as a member, or towards your election expenses.  (This includes any payment or financial benefit from a trade union within the meaning of the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992.

 

3          Details of any contract which is made between you (or a body in which you have a beneficial interest) and the authority

 

(a)       Under which goods or services are to be provided or works are to be executed; and

 

            (b)       Which has not been fully discharged.

 

4          Details of any beneficial interest in land which is within the area of the authority. 

 

5          Details of any licence (alone or jointly with others) to occupy land in the area of the authority for a month or longer. 

 

6          Details of any tenancy where (to your knowledge)

 

            (a)       The landlord is the authority; and

 

            (b)       The tenant is a body in which you have a beneficial                                                         interest.

 

7          Details of any beneficial interest in securities of a body where

 

(a)       That body (to your knowledge) has a place of business or land in the    area of the authority; and

 

 

(b)       Either –

 

(i)      The total nominal value of the securities exceeds £25,000 or one            hundredth of the total issued share capital of that body; or

 

(ii)     If that share capital of that body is of more than one class, the total nominal value of the shares of any one class in which the relevant person has a beneficial interest exceeds one hundredth of the total issued share capital of that class.

In addition, you must also disclose other non-pecuniary interests set out in the Code of Conduct where these have not already been registered.

 

Note

 

A “disclosable pecuniary interest” is an interest of a councillor or their partner (which means spouse or civil partner, a person with whom they are living as husband or wife, or a person with whom they are living as if they are civil partners).

Minutes:

Mrs C Bowditch declared a personal interest in item 6 as she is a carer and her son is in receipt of benefits.

 

 

87.

EXCLUSION OF PRESS AND PUBLIC

To consider whether the press and public should be excluded from the meeting during consideration of any item on the agenda.

Minutes:

RESOLVED - that the press and public be admitted to the meeting for all items of business

 

88.

MINUTES pdf icon PDF 81 KB

To confirm as a correct record the minutes of the meeting of the Scrutiny Advisory Board – Adults held on 18 January 2018.         (copy enclosed).

 

Minutes:

Mr GRPM Roberts was not in attendance at this meeting.

 

Item 81 page 11 in the list of Joint Health and Adults Advisory Group should read “ Derek Gawne”.

 

RESOLVED that the minutes of the previous meeting held on 18 January 2018 be agreed.

 

89.

ALL AGES CARERS CHARTER pdf icon PDF 85 KB

To consider the emerging principles in the draft Charter and discuss how carers and the wider community should be engaged on the Charters production.   

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The report was presented by Sharon Simpson, Senior Manager - Children's Commissioning

The report was to allow Adults Scrutiny Board to provide input into the All Age Carers’ Charter at an early stage of its development.

At the last meeting of the Adults Scrutiny Board it was agreed that the Board have another opportunity to consider the Charter in greater depth to provide member input on the development of an All Age Carers Charter.

 

Issues from the report were discussed and a question was asked about what the objective of the charter was.

 

Sharon Simpson, Senior Manager, Children's Commissioning explained that the Charter will help to identify all carers, not only the ones which are paid but those in the hidden population who need the help and support’

 

It was suggested that the Charter include a definition of what the meaning of ‘Carers’ is so it is clear who is covered by the Charter.

 

Also the Board requested a vision statement which states the purpose of the Charter to be circulated to all members of the Board.

 

A question was asked if there was a list of the proposed carer organisations   and consultees before the start of the consultation period to enable members of the Board to identify and additions that could be made.

 

Sharon Simpson, Senior Manager, Children’s commissioning, said that a list would be provided to Board members.

 

The Board thought it was appropriate for a meeting between the Scrutiny Advisory Board Children and Young People, Sharon Simpson,Senior Manager, Children's Commissioning and members of the Scrutiny Advisory Board Adults for issues to be discussed and enable the Scrutiny Advisory Board Children and Young People to input their perspective in this respect.

 

Sharon Simpson, Senior Manager, Children's Commissioning, informed the Board that if they have any further questions they would like to ask they could e-mail her and she would reply as soon as possible.

 

RESOLVED:-

 

  • that the Charter to include a definition of what we mean by ‘Carers’ being clear who is covered by the Charter.
  • that the Charter to include an overarching vision statement clearly stating the purpose of the Charter, this statement to be circulated to the members of the Board.
  • that the members of the Board to be provided with a list of proposed list of consultees, carers organisations etc. prior to the start of the consultation period, for Members to identify any additions.
  • that a meeting to be convened with members of Children and Young People Scrutiny Advisory Board and Sharon to address the issues discussed and get further input from and Children’s Scrutiny perspective. Involving members from the Scrutiny Advisory Board Adults.

 

90.

SAFEGUARDING ADULTS AT RISK FROM ABUSE AND NEGLECT pdf icon PDF 225 KB

To receive the latest figures and analysis of Safeguarding alerts and investigations, details of actions undertaken and improvements planned.

 

Minutes:

The report was presented by Adrianne Halliwell, Senior Manager, Safeguarding and Care Governance

The report provided members of the Board an update and analysis of adult safeguarding activity in quarter 3 of 2017/18.  It also briefed Members on progress against the key areas of performance relating to Making Safeguarding Personal and described the actions planned to strengthen or consolidate improvements in Adult Safeguarding in Cumbria.

Adrianne Halliwell, Senior Manager, Safeguarding and Care Governance pointed out that there had been a significant increase in the number of concerns raised. This is to be welcomed as it is a sign that people are being encouraged to raise concerns.

 

A question was asked concerning the number of “Other” in the list of Source of Alerts/Concerns/Enquiries.

 

Adrianne Halliwell, Senior Manager, Safeguarding and Care Governance,

explained that further work is being undertaken with the data recording team to identify what can be done to improve the way people self identify when recording concerns.

 

A further question was asked if information was being shared.

 

Adrianne Halliwell, Senior Manager, Safeguarding and Care Governance explained that a board has been set up, Cumbria Safeguarding Adults Board, to improve information sharing and reports will be shared with the Board as a part of future reports.

 

A Board member raised the question of why the Community Hospital in Brampton Hospital was not included in the list of Sources of Alerts/Concerns/Enquiries for the last three quarters.

 

Adrianne Halliwell, Senior Manager, Safeguarding and Care Governance explained that some areas report to the police and Community Safeguarding and will not show on the figures. She will examine why there have been no concerns recorded at the Community Hospital in Brampton and will report back to the Board member.

 

RESOLVED:

 

·         that the ‘Other’ category in the source of concern is still a substantial proportion, further work to be undertaken with data recording team to analyse what can be done to improve the way people self identify when recording a concern

·         that Improvements in the way that GPs and the Hospital Trusts report on the Safeguarding concerns they have raised are then recorded and reported the Clinical Commissioning Groups. Work undertaken by multi-agency group which reports to Safeguarding Adults Board to be reported the Scrutiny Board as part of future reports.

·         that an examination as to why there has been no concerns raised by the Community Hospital at Brampton in the last three quarters and report back to the Board member.

 

91.

ADULT SCRUTINY ADVISORY BOARD BRIEFING pdf icon PDF 65 KB

To consider and agree the Work Programme and other issues not covered in the rest of the agenda.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

This briefing was introduced by Mr David Stephens, Strategic Policy and Scrutiny Adviser.

 

The briefing paper informed members of the Board of new or updated items of significance to the Adult Scrutiny Advisory Board.

During a discussion of the briefing a member of the Board asked for clarification on point 3.2 of the report as to who “public health” were.

Mr David Stephens, Strategic Policy and Scrutiny Adviser explained that this was the public health team within Cumbria County Council.

 

Peter Thornton, Cabinet Member for Health and Care Services, gave an update on the day services review.

 

He explained that discussions are currently under way with various departments within Cumbria County Council with regards to the review so specific details of the proposals can be produced. The Local Committees were also being involved to help shape what is happening.

 

Peter Thornton, Cabinet Member for Health and Care Services, went on to update the Board in the main areas being reviewed.

 

Extra Care

 

Matters are moving on as planned and some of the schemes are near o the building stage.

 

There will be a review of strategy in the summer.

 

The Board agreed that it was important that the schemes delivers what is required and that the Scrutiny Advisory Board Adults can help support and influence the way forward.

 

A question was asked if this strategy is happening in other Authorities.

 

Peter Thornton, Cabinet Member for Health and Care Services, advised that this was not at present known however this will be investigated during the review in the summer.

 

Day Services

 

There is to be a review of the Day Services and presentations are currently being made to Local Committees.

 

The report will outline the engagement process, which had already been undertaken, and what is planned with regards to staff, service users and members. This will be brought to the Board at a future meeting.

 

Cumbria Care

 

Peter Thornton, Cabinet Member for Health and Care Services, advised that the low occupancy figures were a concern. The County Council is not allowed to direct occupants to Council run premises as it is an open market and people have freedom of choice.

 

A question was raised concerning the occupancy of the new home in Barrow.

 

Mr David Stephens, Strategic Policy and Scrutiny Adviser. Advised the Board that he would request these figures and bring them to a future meeting.

 

Integration

 

Members were informed that the CQC Review of the Health and Care System in Cumbria was now expected to report in May.

 

A question was asked concerning the amalgamation of Adults and Children Social Care in the current restructure of the Extended Leadership Team. A  concern was expressed that the Special Teams in these individual areas, who deal with various disabilities, would still be there following the amalgamation.

 

Peter Thornton, Cabinet Member for Health and Care Services, explained  ...  view the full minutes text for item 91.

92.

DATE OF NEXT MEETING

The next meeting of the Scrutiny Advisory Board – Adults is scheduled for  28 June 2018 at Cumbria House, Botchergate, Carlisle.

Minutes:

The next meeting of the Scrutiny Advisory Board – Adults is on 28 June 2018 in the Conference Room, Cumbria House, Botchergate, Carlisle.